This is my kind of results. They are able to achieve this easier in professional ovens, with high heat and steam injection. The bread singing is the sound the loaf makes as it shrinks when the crust is really dry and cannot shrink along with the crumb. I have managed to bake wholewheat breads that are light and fluffy using the stretch and fold technique, but i have yet to get the results you are experiencing. I've been fighting for the same thing for quite some time when I found out it is a lot of steam right after you take it out of the fridge. To get a darker yet still thin crust, bake with steam at a higher temperature. The formula called for baking at 450ºF. Thanks. I did type up the tables in a hurry last night, in response to a special request, so "haste makes waste," eh? Once it’s in the oven, steam will escape quickly, hardening the crust. Could anyone offer me some pointers on how I might get the crust on my San Francisco sourdough to be more shiny, orange and blistered? I don't use any spray or water in a pan. Could anyone offer me some pointers on how I might get the crust on my San Francisco sourdough to be more shiny, orange and blistered? It was beautiful and very tasty....some nice translucscene in the crumb...but not the Big loose crumb that I was hoping for. For sourdough bread, I would recommend using buttermilk if you have it (every bit of tang helps). Photos of your baguettes including crumb photos might help pinpoint your problem. I bake so few breads that are not sourdough, I'm not sure I can answer your question about gelatinized starch. The number are correctly transcribed from the book, I'm pretty sure. Below is a shot of our Pain Quotidien (daily bread): Thank you for your time and these pointers. Let me think about it and do a bit of book research. England, Germany and France...none of them showed this deep, dark coloration. If yours is thicker or thinner, you will need to adjust the amount of water, so start with a lesser amount and add more slowly if needed. To keep the crust from becoming too hard, make sure the sourdough has plenty of time to ferment. Only one of the two loaves - the one with the tic-tac-toe scoring - developed any crackles. You mentioned gelatinzed starch. The Fresh Loaf is not responsible for community member content. Is that your experience? I mixed than kneaded with Kitchen Aid at 2nd speed for 5 min. If you use higher gluten flour or add gluten (which I never do), you may need a longer mix or more S&F's to fully develop it. Bake for 10-15 minutes before removing the cloche. Yes I do. There are so many factors that influence crumb structure. I think when you typed up the formula, this figure wandered on to the keyboard. They are a bit overly "bold baked," even to my taste. You can start with any active sourdough starter, but a "stiff" starter is generally one that is 50-65% hydration. Community Bake - Semolina/Durum and similar grain... Steaming an oven for bread: Having trouble with... Swedish Rye inspired by Abe’s recent post. It looks just like my pain au levain. How do you get it so dark and still keep it so thin? It is a wet dough, but managable, and it makes delicious bread. I made some adjustments and I have photos but unfortunately I am having trouble understanding how to upload to TFL....the crumb is definitely much better. I need to check multiple formulas in the book for a pattern. All original site content copyright 2021 The Fresh Loaf unless stated otherwise. & OZ. Melt the butter in a small saucepan over low heat. It is 1/2" thick and glazed on top. Hello, I have been working on baguettes lately. Always develop the gluten first using just flour and water before adding anything else. I have since experimented with it and have some lovely blistery loaves. I was able to achieve similar results by incorporating A LOT of steam. Content posted by community members is their own. You can turn it down after the cloche is removed but I never do. How dry it is matters. And you are correct that they don't add up. It will start to look a little bit more shiny, a little smoother, and little more supple as you continue to stretch and fold. I posted photos...just getting the hang of this and wasn't able to get the text in. This loaf was baked to 205F and was pulled from the oven. I assume you are referring to the same kind of orange shine exterior that the Tartine Country loaf boasts on the front cover of Chad Robertson's book for example. I make sourdough high hydration long fermentation loaves frequently, and I use a thermometer to determine when the bread is done, especially when making a new recipe, then note that for future bakes. 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