The 7x57, 7mm-08, 6.5x55 and .260 can handle bullets ranging from about 100-160 grains very effectively. It was developed by Paul Mauser of the Mauser company in 1892 and adopted as a military cartridge by Spain in 1893. Posted: Tue … Bell took over 1,000 elephants in his career, and a good percentage of them were with a .275 Rigby and 175-grain solid (non-expanding) bullets. The .280 Remington retains the same 17-degree 30-minute shoulder of the .30-06 but uses the 2.54-inch case of the .30-03 Springfield. Mag. quote: Originally posted by fredj338: What rifle is that being built on? fredj, being the Sako maniac I am, it is on a M-75 action with a McMillan stock, Wiseman barrel, and Wiseman 'printing' of the action. Joined Feb 25, 2019 Messages 17 Location Colorado . By Ron Spomer. I need the boards input 7x57 Improved (40 degree) Vs standard 280 Remington. 7x57 or 280 Remington. 1941 270: 1895 7x57: _____ Ray. It will offer a velocity advantage of about 300 fps or so over the 7x57mm Mauser with most bullet weights, and the most popular choice for the .280 Remington seems to be the 140-, 150- and 160-grain slugs. Well, I run a .280 with 139s/140s at 3100-3150. While all four are pretty commonly available, the .270 Winchester and the 7mm Remington Magnum are by far the most popular out of the bunch. vs. .300 Win. Since I don't have access to such resources, I would tend to use an approximation. 280 Remington. Jul 21, 2017 #1 A. ATX762 Senior Member. Wildcats be wildcats. is a first-generation smokeless powder rimless bottlenecked rifle cartridge.It is known as .275 Rigby in the United Kingdom. Atkinson. par flu-flu » 09 Fév 2005 21:54 . as a benchmark, according to the Remington website for same bullet factory load. Joined: Sep 8, 2005 Messages: The advantage of the 280 AI is the better selection of high BC bullets, slightly lower recoil and longer brass life. My guesstimate is in a 22" barrel they are pretty much one in the same. vs .280 Rem. Jul 22, 2019 #8 Wapiti426 New member. The 30-06 is a fine round and tough to beat as a do all cartridge. Try Reloaders. At the turn of the 20th Century, with smokeless powder quickly replacing blackpowder, and jacketed bullets extending the terminal performance, the boundaries of acceptable cartridges were being developed and broken as technology progressed. One .270 Win round only has 280 inches of bullet drop at this range while another has 444 inches of bullet drop. There is a long list of cartridges that spawned from other cartridges that became phenomenal creations. Probably not, partly because I was lucky enough to obtain it when the prices at Serengeti were a lot lower than they are now! emotional thing since I liked my 7x57 so much. Can you can get a 7x57 160 loaded 2,850 to 2,900 fps? All of them will kill deer with equal efficiency. I find no bad or negative comments written on either cartridge. versus une .30-06, une 7mm STW versus une .300 Wby ou encore, une 7mm Ultra Mag versus une .300 Ultra Mag. The 7x57 would seem to fit the bill, and I like the idea of using such an old chamfering, but would a 7x64 be a more pragmatic choice? EDIT: Also found a 7x57 test that I did on 150 grain bullets. Wow, what great bullet. vs. .458 Lott• 7mm Rem. Most major ammunition manufacturers offer at least one load for the .280 Remington, though it does still trail behind the .270 and .30-06. Mag. Last year I contracted for a custom 7x57 built by Mike McCabe (z1r). _____ CDR3 Veteran, NRA Member. Why not just a .280? 01 October 2011, 00:40. Looking for some pet loads for the 160-168 class of bullets. All of them will kill deer with equal efficiency. The 7x57 is one of my favorite Bushveld calibers but might be a bit to slow if you planning to take some of long shots at game. In fact, those two cartridges are likely among the Top 10 best selling rifle cartridges in the United States each year. You may contacxt E.R. Not sure if you're in the USA or if you buy factory ammo, but if that matters I'd say the 7x57 wins that battle. Tomahawks Are Back: These American Relics Have Seen a Resurgence in Military and Survival Situations. The switch would later be made to the 139-grain spitzer bullet at a much higher velocity, though the heavier bullet—and the Mauser rifle—made the 7x57mm Mauser’s reputation in the hunting fields. Factory 7x57 loads typically run from 139 to 175 grains, so Hornady's 150-grain ELD-X and 162-grain ELD Match appeared perfectly suited for this. fredj, being the Sako maniac I am, it is on a M-75 action with a McMillan stock, Wiseman barrel, and Wiseman 'printing' of the action. The fans of the .280 Remington are not legion, but they tend to be loyal and steadfast. Whether shopping for a new rifle, for perusing the used shelves of your favorite gun shop, you may very well come across a rifle in one of these cartridges, so let’s do a bit of comparing and contrasting between them. Re: 500Whisper Vs 12,7x57 Anthis. While all four are pretty commonly available, the .270 Winchester and the 7mm Remington Magnum are by far the most popular out of the bunch. were included in that article, but could not match the four short list cartridges in the area of availability of rifles and ammunition (read popularity). The 7x57 produces velocities around 100 to 150fps slower than the .270 and .280 Remington and in doing so, tends to produce mild recoil (in suitably fitting rifles). and owned them. Both the 7x57 and 280 are capable of somewhat higher pressures than this. My favorite rifle is a 7x57. It’s worth noting, however, that some loads have been dropped. Both the 7x57 and 280 are capable of somewhat higher pressures than this. As I pointed out on another thread , I have never been able to a .280 to shoot unless i loaded down quite abit. Mag. Apr 26, 2017 #5 STOMP442 said: Just finished building a 7x57 Ackley on a squared up Mauser 98 with a 26" Benchmark #4 9 twist barrel. 280 Ackley Improved Load Data; 7mm Winchester Short Magnum Load Data; 7mm Remington Magnum Load Data; 7mm Weatherby Magnum Load Data; 7mm Shooting Times Westerner (STW) Load Data ... 7mm (7x57) 7mm-08 Rem. Two classic 7mm cartridges, both with well-established reputations as all-around choices for general big game hunting, and both with a fair number of devotees. Personally I don't have any experience with 7x57 on elk. Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:48 pm . The 300 WSM has proven to be more accurate than a 300 win mag. Nothing I've pointed it at in anger has gone more than a step or two.~Muir . It did, for the first few decades of its existence, suffer from the incredible popularity of both the .30-06 Springfield and the .270 Winchester, and went through that weird name change debacle in the late 70s/early 80s when it was known as the 7mm Express Remington. One dropped like he was hit by lightening and the other took about 5 steps but never took another chew on the clump of grass in his mouth. Which of these loads will serve you best the next time a deer enters the crosshairs? Since we're comparing 7mm rifle ammo, I'd probably take the ol' .280 Remington over either, or as I like to call it, the 7mm-06. It is a flat-shooting cartridge, and though it does have more recoil than does the Mauser, it’s very user-friendly. Sing it Bob. Both great cartridges imo. By today’s standards, the 7x57mm Mauser is in the same league, albeit slightly less powerful than the .270 Win., .280 Rem., 7mm-08, and .284 Win. Reactions: WVgoodguy22. The 7x57 was a staple among those who lived in colonial Africa; the late Finn Aagaard related the story of the family’s 7x57 having a barrel that was shot out on game, not targets. I am an idiot who needs sleep. SAAMI spec pressure is higher with the 270 65KPSI vs 60KPSI for the 280. Atkinson. Ballistics on each are nearly the same however the cost of doing the 7x57 Imp places me about $255.00 over budget when the chamber reamer and extra dies are factored in . Durant toute la durée du confinement, nous expédions normalement vos commandes. Killing a bull cleanly takes a good cartridge. In the 7mm bore diameter, these are both middle of the road choices, giving the shooter enough horsepower to get the job done, yet both are usually easy enough on the shoulder to allow for accurate shot placement. 280 Rem. StarCraft II is a real-time strategy game from Blizzard Entertainment for the PC and Mac. Still- kind of surprised the differences aren't even greater. I shoot 140s out of my .280 and have killed two bulls. La balistique en quelques chiffres . quote: Originally posted by fredj338: What rifle is that being built on? One of the greater benefits of the 57mm case design is that velocity is limited to a level which tends to bring about optimum bullet performance with regard to terminal ballistics. by Philip Massaro - 270 Win vs. 7x57 If you had these two calibers and they shoot equally well which would you keep and why? 7mm Rem Ultra Mag. The 7x57 is a nice upgrade to that. The head diameter of the 7x64 is slightly smaller than the .280 (probably originally to avoid any patent issues with the Mauser brothers 8x57) however .270/.280 brass can be formed into 7x64. I’m talking 7mm-08 vs. .308; .280 Rem. and owned them. Haut. We've got you covered.• .300 Win. 7x57 vs 7mm-08 Discussion in 'General Firearms Forum' started by plp, Jun 6, 2018. Maybe the best way to really determine the difference in velocity potential between two cartridges is to perform tests including multiple rifles and loads loaded to the same pressure as determined by the latest test equipment. Mag.• .375 Ruger vs. .375 H&H Magnum• 7mm-08 Remington vs. .280 Remington• .280 Remington vs. .280 Ackley Improved• 7mm vs. .30 Caliber• 6.5 Weatherby RPM vs. 6.5 PRC• .338 Win. To simplify the question, the .270 holds more powder and it can shoot the same weigh bullets. The 7x64 case is ever so slightly shorter than the .280 in case length dimensions but features slightly less body taper, evening out case capacity. KSTEPHENS. Palouser Post subject: Re: 7x57 or 7x57 AI. STOMP442 said: Just finished building a 7x57 Ackley on a squared up Mauser 98 with a 26" Benchmark #4 9 twist barrel. The .35 I’d reserve for the last three, while the others require no more than the other options. … Looking for previous installments of our "Head to Head" series? One of the greater benefits of the 57mm case design is that velocity is limited to a level which tends to bring about optimum bullet performance with regard to terminal ballistics. fyrewall. I've got months to find a round that shoots well out of my .308, but October will be here quick. Joined Jun 30, 2017 Messages 115 Location Austin, TX. Mag.• .243 Winchester vs. 6mm Remington• 7x57mm Mauser vs. 7mm-08 Remington• .25-06 Remington vs. .257 Weatherby Magnum• .338 Winchester vs. .375 H&H Magnum• .30-30 Winchester vs. .35 Remington• .257 Roberts vs. .250-3000 Savage• .270 Winchester vs. .280 Remington• .35 Whelen vs. 9.3x62mm Mauser• .416 Rigby vs. .416 Remington Magnum• .308 Winchester vs. .30-06 Springfield• .22 Nosler vs. .224 Valkyrie• .300 Win. Another very underrated cartridge with limited demand. I remember reading a post written by BobVZ on the our old message board explaining his results of converting a 7x57 to a 280 Remington. In a longer tube the extra case capacity of the 280 allows more of the slow burning stuff. Latest. The Contestants. My favorite rifle is a 7x57. I have a lovely Ruger Model 77 in 7 x 57 Mauser too, but thought just to be on the safe side to up gun from that to the 280. #2 Short actions chamberings and rifles are simply more accurate. Those were right around 50 KPSI and 2800 FPS. Steve. vs. .340 Wby. IIRC, his findings were, due to the twist rate of the military barrel he used, rather displeasing as he was having a hard time finding an accurate load for his rifle; especially with lighter bullets. They are the same cartridge, sort of like the .244 Remington/6MM Remington and the 7MM Express Remington/.280 Remington. I must say I'm a little surprised that an innocent little thread like this contains so many fierce defenses of one cartridge against another. Top . The 7-08 in place of the 7x57 loses nothing a deer would notice. S. srvet Well-Known Member. Jul 23, 2019 … Cartridge Fight: .270 Win. (The 7x57 was designed for 175 grain bullets and the 6.5x55 for 160 grain bullets.) Looking at the elder cartridge, the 7x57mm Mauser began life as a military cartridge, and went on to inspire America’s sweetheart, the .30-06 Springfield. Et le quelle est le meilleur . The case capacity and velocities generated by the .280 Remington make is a great choice for those who want the capability to take elk at 400 yards, bear over bait at 40 yards, and everything in between. The longer .280 Remington and other similar capacity cartridges actually add little killing power, but their increased recoil and muzzle blast make it seem as if they do. In this case 270 vs 280, I have no idea why the 280 was created. Mag. That said, the 7x57mm Mauser can be a very versatile cartridge as well. Joined: Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:22 pm Posts: 459 Location: Washington State, USA I guess the nostalgia of the 7x57 appeals to me over the 280. “Perfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Away”. Tuesday, October 27, 2020. In the first editions, a load is given for the .450/.400 Nitro Express (3 inch), but by Effective Game Killing Cartridge of the month: 300 Winchester Magnum Inspiration Show all Inspiration 10 tips for hunters in quarantine Wild Berlin - Hunting in urban areas vs. .300 Ultra Mag. The 7x57, 7mm-08, 6.5x55 and .260 Rem. I have built customer's rifles in both calibers, shot them. Calculations were corrected to standard temperature (59F/15C) and pressure (29.92 inHg/1013 mbar) … Few would consider the 7x57 a good choice for elephant or Cape buffalo, but it does make a great choice for deer, elk, black bear and a good number of the African plains game species. Last year I contracted for a custom 7x57 … To be honest, this is more of a personal, i.e. 1941 270: 1895 7x57: _____ Ray. vs .280 Rem. I used to shoot the 170 gr. vs. .300 Wby. Uncle Grinch, Mar … There is no plains game animal the 30-06 cant take down. 7x57 or 280 Remington. Survival. Can run 280/160's at 3,000 fps when taken to AI pressure level. 280 Remington. The 7mm Showdown: 7x57 vs. 7mm-08 Rem. 7mm Wby Mag. Same cartridge, just different name. 7mm-08 vs 270, some thoughts. It will offer a velocity advantage of about 300 fps or so over the 7x57mm Mauser with most bullet weights, and the most popular choice for the .280 Remington seems to be the 140-, 150- and 160-grain slugs. 7x57 Mauser What rifle are you buying marked .257 Rigby? - DrMike. Mag.• .30-06 Springfield vs. .270 Winchester• 6.5 Creedmoor vs. 7mm-08 Remington• 8x57 Mauser vs. .318 Westley Richards• .358 Winchester vs. .350 Remington Magnum• .22-250 Remington vs. .220 Swift• .270 Winchester vs. .270 WSM• .26 Nosler vs. 6.5-300 Weatherby Magnum• .458 Win. But, a handloader and a modern rifle can run it at modern pressures up to 58-60K psi. In fact, those two cartridges are likely among the Top 10 best … The answer is that one fits in to a short action and the other gives you about an extra 100 to 150 FPS±. .257 Rigby/7x57 Mauser.257 Rigby is what British gunmakers called the 7x57 at one time. Sure, the 7mm Mauser is an old-timer, but this older round can keep up with newer ones. vs. .284 Win. I don't hand load, so would be reliant on factory ammunition. … 280 Ack Imp. The answer is that one fits in to a short action and the other gives you about an extra 100 to 150 FPS±. More Guns. ArmedBear Member. 01 October 2011, 00:40. vs. .30-06; 7mm STW vs. .300 Wby. Can you can get a 7x57 160 from 2,850 to 2,900 fps? If I were you I would load it with Hornady GMX/Barnes X and not worry that you are under gunned or need a 7 mm. The 7x57 is about perfectly balanced, case size vs. bore. With the 7mm-08 rounds, the top performing round only has 295 inches of bullet drop while another has 435 inches. Go. The author analyzed the 7x57 Mauser, 7mm-08 Remington, .280 Remington, 7mm Remington Magnum, 7mm Weatherby Magnum, and 28 Nosler for trajectory, effective range, and recoil with modern ballistic software available free online from shooterscalculator.com. 7mm Rem SA Ultra Mag. (In the case of the 7x57, also 175 grain bullets.) This will be a tough one, as they are both excellent designs, with long histories of great field performance. Wow, what great bullet. Planetcat, Jun 7, 2018. Using a rimless, bottlenecked case measuring 57mm (2.244 inches) and a bullet diameter of 7.25mm (0.284 inches)—the land diameter is where the 7mm moniker is derived—the Mauser design used a 173- to 175-grain round nose bullet at a muzzle velocity of 2300 fps. Like @wbm says, fine … Exemples, une 7mm-08 contre .308, une .280 Rem. With slower powders the on paper data suggest thats possible at 65Kpsi. That’s not the point, or at least it shouldn’t be whenever one hears the 7mm vs 30 caliber argument. Edited to add; I see now that cptpoly posted the same link, good info though. The 280 should beat it by a bit, but not much. Last edited: Jun 9, 2018. 100 yard Ballistic Gel testing a 140gn Core-Lokt bullet. 270 Win vs. 7x57 If you had these two calibers and they shoot equally well which would you keep and why? I have built customer's rifles in both calibers, shot them. In the High Velocity guise—the throat of the chamber is modified to work best with the 140-grain bullets—as is so popular in the U.K. for stalking red deer and hunting roe deer, the cartridge handles those species perfectly. ! Calibre 7x57R en vente en ligne sur l'armurerie française, bénéficiez des meilleurs conditions tarifaires et d'une livraison très rapide. I've loaded the 175 in the 280 using 58 grains of 7828 for, SAAMI for the 7x57 is 51Kpsi. Pitiful. 1 of 2 Go to page. Same with a 7-08 vs a 270 or 280. .257 Rigby/7x57 Mauser.257 Rigby is what British gunmakers called the 7x57 at one time. In the hands of explorer/hunters like Walter Dalrymple Maitland Bell, known by his African nickname “Karamoja,” the 7x57mm Mauser—marketed in the U.K. as the .275 Rigby—would be used as an all-around cartridge, for animals as small as impala all the way up to elephant. EDIT: Also found a 7x57 test that I did on 150 grain bullets. 284 Win. The result: a necked neck. Check it out! Those were right around 50 KPSI and 2800 FPS. vs. .300 WSM• .223 Remington vs. .22-250 Remington, E-mail your comments/questions about this site to: EmediaHunter@nrahq.org, For questions/comments about American Hunter magazine, please e-mail:Publications@nrahq.org, You can contact the NRA via phone at: NRA Member Programs1-800-672-3888, To advertise on American Hunter, visit nramediakit.com for more information. The .280 Remington retains the same 17-degree 30-minute shoulder of the .30-06 but uses the 2.54-inch case of the .30-03 Springfield. Introduced in 1925, the .270 is a necked-down .30-06 that holds .277 diameter bullets. ; 7mm Ultra Mag. Seen more than a few taken with .270's and 30-06 though. My great room is littered with reloading manuals, articles ECT. I love the 6mm Remington but it doesn't really have that much of an advantage over the 243 really. Does the old 7x57 offer enough to make a hunter choose it over the .280? Hope you had a good Christmas. 28 Nosler. Looking for some pet loads for the 160-168 class of bullets. Top . In fact, the .280 Remington may be one of the best balanced of the Springfield family. It’s on a VZ-24 Czech military Mauser action. .280 holds about 10 gr more powder whiich I would say equates to 140-150 fps. 500Whisper Vs 12,7x57 Anthis. If hunting CXP2 game is your primary consideration, these four are exemplary cartridges, regardless of COL. I think alot goes back to when the 280 was a wildcat rd 7mm/06 and the 30-06 is 60kPSI they just kept it the same pressure level. Twist rates for rifle barrels tend to differ slightly from manufacturer to manufacturer and from decade to decade (1:9-1:10), therefore, experimentation with the full range of 7mm bullet weights is often a requirement. Long before it was used in the war it was the standard hunting rifle of many farmers. Mag.• .404 Jeffery vs. .416 Rigby• .243 Winchester vs. 6mm Creedmoor• .300 PRC vs. .300 Win. Nous vous livrons également au drive sans-contact du Magasin de Nîmes. Our modern bullets have done nothing but help the 19th century cartridge, making it even more effective than it was in the 1890s. _____ "So many rifles; so little time." With the Hornady Custom .275 Rigby load 140-grain load moving at 2680 fps, it will still retain over 1,000 ft-lbs at the 400-yard mark. Nothing I've pointed it at in anger has gone more than a step or two.~Muir March 20, 2020. I love them all but if pushed to pick a favorite it would be the 7x57 hands down. The Contestants. 7mm Rem Mag. The truth is that the 7x57 has proven itself adequate for even the world's biggest game under the right circumstances. I had my Interarms Mark X in 7x57 rechambered to 280 Rem about 20 years ago and have regretted it ever since. You thinking of Roberts or 280?- drybean. I have owned(and still do) plenty of 7x57,7mm-08 as well as .280 Remington. Witold Krzyżanowski . Alas, like the 7x57 it suffers somewhat from a low maximum breech pressure, 56,000 psi. Hoping to see it before our annual pilgramage to Kansas.... 11 October 2007, 04:16 . They also need less powder … 270 vs 280 vs 280 AI vs 7mm Rem Mag Ammo Selection. I had the .35 Whelan built some time ago for Elk hunting. Shaw and just have your Ruger rebarreled to another 7x57 or to 280. Of course you are right on the money. Killing a big bull at a steep quartering angle takes a very good cartridge topped by a tough, deep-penetrating bullet. It’s essentially a short-action round that has the potential to run neck-and-neck with the longer .280 Remington. AH ambassador. … I can't part with either one!!! I've got a rifle hunt planned for this fall in CO and need to find some factory ammo that shoots well out of my gun. All comments are welcome and appreciated. Check it out! I would not expect much difference at equal peak pressures. Mag.• .300 RSAUM vs. .300 WSM• .500 Jeffrey vs. .505 Gibbs• 7mm RUM vs. .300 RUM• .308 Winchester vs. 7mm-08 Remington• 6.5 Creedmoor vs. .260 Remington• .303 British vs. 8x57 Mauser• .30-06 Springfield vs. All Other .30s• .17 HMR vs. .17 WSM• .450 Nitro Express vs. .470 Nitro Express• 350 Legend vs. .35 Remington• .280 Ackley Improved vs. 7mm Rem. Supporter . Same dealer shows 4 options for 7x64 with 2 options in stock. I think the 30-06 would be a better bet. Nov 14, 2017 Forced to pick between the two, the .280 gives more versatility and the sensible side of me will have to give the .280 Remington the nod. Get the American Hunter Insider newsletter for at-a-glance access to industry news, gear, gun reviews, videos and more—delivered directly to your Inbox. I can't part with either one!!! Ballistics on each are nearly the same however the cost of doing the 7x57 Imp places me about $255.00 over budget when the chamber reamer and extra dies are factored in . 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